What the hell is this?
NYT: Options dwindling for Clinton – The New York Times- msnbc.com
And in Indiana, for example, less than half of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters said they would support Mr. Obama in a general election, while one-third said they would vote for Mr. McCain. About one-fifth of Mr. Obama’s supporters in Indiana said they would vote for Mr. McCain in a general election should Mrs. Clinton get the nomination.
I realize that a lot of this is bitterness – and that there’s a lot of bitterness on the Obama side as well – but to publicly make the statement that you’d consider four more years of Bush doctrine in the world, more Conservative judges in the Supreme Court and the McSame Health Care Plan? I don’t believe it’s true, I don’t think they’ll really side with McCain. If anything, maybe a few will pout at home come election day and feel guilty about it later. But what kind of gaping asshole says things like this to pollsters?
But I think that more than anything else, it’s the Clinton campaign style that brings this out. She’s thrown every nasty bolt she could find his way, she has used every single excuse in the book to justify her campaign, she and her surrogates have used Republican playbooks and even Republican sources while pretending to want to lead us in a different direction, she’s even metamorphosed from Queen Wonk to Shot Slammin’ Anti-Intellectual Diva for the sake of a few Indiana votes. She has whipped up a virulent hatred that is unambiguous in blog posts, comments and now in exit polls.
And for what? A two-percent margin of victory in Indiana that contributes absolutely nothing to her delegate count. A double-digit loss in North Carolina that puts her at least fifteen or twenty delegates further into the hole. A supercharged hate machine that threatens – bluff or no bluff – to ruin the party and probably the country if it doesn’t get what it wants.
And ask yourself this, Electability Monkeys: has Barack Obama won against a good campaign or has Hillary Clinton lost to a lame campaign? Because neither answer bodes well for Hillary’s electability rationale.
6 replies on “Does Hillary Represent the A$$hole Wing of the Party?”
I think in the end, most Clinton supporters like myself will support Obama. But I think much of the resentment that is reflected by polls or stats that you cite in your post, stems from, to a large degree, the behavior of Obama supporters. I think the arrogance and juvenile behavior constantly displayed online at sites like Daily Kos and respectfully, the title of this post here, does not really help to endear Clinton supporters to your candidate. I’m not saying this is one-sided, but it’s mostly coming from your side. The constant gushing over Obama by MSM pundits and supposedly objective journalists does not help either. The ugly vids you see on YouTube have also galvanized Clinton support. Many of her supporters have just decided that they will not let the media detemine who the nominee should be. And one thing Obama supporters like yourself refuse to admit, is that he has run a negative campaign himself via his surrogates. There have been blatant sexist and untrue flyers distributed; slanderous robocalls generated in critical contests and none of this is ever reported in the MSM since he is their darling and had been protected up until the point when they were forced to start vetting him when Rev. Wright came to light. When asked recently by an audience member at a Harvard’s Institute of Politics Forum how he would respond to the claim that MSNBC officially supports Obama, Matthews responded “Well, it’s not official.” Many of this has truly caused a mistrust of Obama and could hurt him in the general election. I myself, plan to support Obama if he wins. However, I think you are doing a disservice to your candidate by perpetuating attacks like this one on Clinton supporters.
You do see, don’t you, that all that plagues Hillary happens where it cannot seem to be proven, yet all she has done in reaction has been painfully obvious and said by her? You do see that there is always an excuse for every barb, always another justification for every loss, always some thing that the rest of us don’t understand because the media’s not paying attention?
It is very difficult to believe any of it.
But beyond that, you can’t seriously be suggesting that it’s somehow justifiable for Clinton supporters to threaten to defect to McCain? Just because, what? Obama might have been too pretty for Tracy Flick to defeat?
And I’m glad you don’t think it all comes from “our side,” just most of it.
Thomas I assume you’re responding to my comment. I recall Obama having a bunch of excuses himself after PA. Also, if you go back and read my comment more carefully, you will see that there’s nothing that suggests that I’m “seriously suggesting that it’s somehow justifiable for Clinton supporters to threaten to defect to McCain.” Like I said earlier, I think in the end, the support will be there for Obama. If you go to http://www.petitiononline.com/ACUDP2/petition.html you’ll see that there are plenty of Obama supporters that say they won’t vote for Hillary if she’s the nominee. I would not be surprised to find out you might be among those, despite the fact we probably agree on mostly every other issue that faces us as a country, from the war to economy. Anyway, my point was that the support will be there in the long run but for those of you who so desperately want to see your candidate win, you can help his cause by not making it so hard for Clinton supporters to come over to his camp. If the Hillary-hatred and posts like these would subside, I’m sure the support he needs will be there. And let’s face it, he does need us. You guys are supposed to be about a different kind of politics. maybe you should practice what your leader preaches.
Thomas, other than who you’re supporting for president, I really like your blog. Love Rochester. My cousin used to go to school up there. Lots of good times there. I hope you’ll support us in NYC to help us get rid of the only congressional Republican in the city, Vito Fossella.
Marc1A ~ Sorry ’bout the late response, not much happens on this blog after say 5pm. . .
I think at this point its probably best for Obama and Clinton supporters to agree to disagree, especially those of us whose Senator Hillary Clinton will likely be for a long time. It’s been a long and ugly campaign of which I am mostly tired of, anyway.
Oh, yeah, and thanks for the compliments!